Talk:Console Emulators
The table we used in table and frontend, can it not been used in the emulator page as well? Like this?
This page contains brief descriptions of various emulators for each console. If more information is needed for a particular emulator, an individual page will be created.
| Company | Machine & Wikipedia link | Players | Control Type | Nr of Buttons | Cabfriedly Emulator(s) |
| 3DO Company | 3DO_Interactive_Multiplayer | ? | ? | ? | ? |
| Atari | Atari 2600 | 2 | Digital | 1 | ? |
| Atari | Atari 5200 | ? | Analog | ? | MESS |
| Atari | Atari 7800 | ? | ? | ? | MESS |
| Atari | Atari Jaguar | ? | ? | ? | ? |
| Bally | Astrocade Bally Astrocade | ? | ? | ? | MESS |
We should only list machines and emulator, that can fit into a cabinet. Otherwice there are other page, that are lots better doing that (like Zophar). Spacefractal
I like that, it give a nice overview of consoles and direct information. The emulator page should always point to a page in this wiki, in my opinion, there is most certainly cab related info for each emulator (perhaps have links to front-ends that support this emulator etc.) Another idea: have an alternating colour backdrop to keep brands (especially Atari, Nintendo and Sega) together like this:
| Company | Machine & Wikipedia link | Players | Control Type | Nr of Buttons | Cabfriedly Emulator(s) |
| 3DO Company | 3DO_Interactive_Multiplayer | ? | ? | ? | ? |
| Atari | Atari 2600 | 2 | Digital | 1 | ? |
| Atari | Atari 5200 | ? | Analog | ? | MESS |
| Atari | Atari 7800 | ? | ? | ? | MESS |
| Atari | Atari Jaguar | ? | ? | ? | ? |
| Bally | Bally Astrocade | ? | ? | ? | MESS |
| Bandai | Bandai Atmark (Apple Pippin) | ? | ? | ? | ? |
Felsir 07:22, 26 March 2006 (EST)
Yep, your right. We could even change the table to this one (Each company have one cell):
| Company | Machine & Wikipedia link | Players | Control Type | Nr of Buttons | Cabfriedly Emulator(s) |
| 3DO Company | 3DO_Interactive_Multiplayer | ? | ? | ? | ? |
| Atari | Atari 2600 |
? ? |
Digital Analog |
? ? |
? |
| Bally | Bally Astrocade | ? | ? | ? | MESS |
| Bandai | Bandai Atmark (Apple Pippin) | ? | ? | ? | ? |
Wich table version do you like most?
You are right about the emulator page. on these page, we could link to the officiel page, wrappers, hacked versions of a emulator, so it can get this to work on a cab.
--Spacefractal 09:24, 26 March 2006 (EST)
Hmm, not really sure, I do like the one-cell-per-brand option you suggested. I'm not sure if the table would still work if -for example- Atari 7800 has three of four emulators; would the lines still match? What about this mix?
| Company | Machine & Wikipedia link | Players | Control Type | Nr of Buttons | Cabfriedly Emulator(s) |
| 3DO Company | 3DO_Interactive_Multiplayer | ? | ? | ? | ? |
| Atari | Atari 2600 | 2 | Digital | 1 | ? |
| Atari 5200 | ? | Analog | ? | MESS | |
| Atari 7800 | ? | ? | ? | MESS | |
| Atari Jaguar | ? | ? | ? | ? | |
| Bally | Bally Astrocade | ? | ? | ? | MESS |
| Bandai | Bandai Atmark (Apple Pippin) | ? | ? | ? | ? |
Felsir 07:22, 26 March 2006 (EST)
It better. We should only show emulators, that CAN been run from command line, or use of a wrapper.
Some machines have a lots of emulatos, like NES (there are bunch of emulators to this machine). It may been stupid to list them there. But it could been showed in the indept page instead (like the frontend and jukebox section), and maybe some heklp how to intall and config to a arcadecab (like links to wrappes). It even better show emulators in the indepth page, so it can link emulators to linux and dos too (as long these are cabfreidly).
What do you think with this changed table (system buttons like start/select and so on should been shown here):
| Company | Machine | Players | Control Type | Game Buttons | System Buttons |
| 3DO Company | 3DO_Interactive_Multiplayer (WikiPedia) | ? | ? | ? | ? |
| Atari | Atari 2600 (WikiPedia) | 2 | Digital | 1 | 4 (2 swithes) |
| Atari 5200 (WikiPedia) | ? | Analog | ? | ? | |
| Atari 7800 (WikiPedia) | ? | ? | ? | ? | |
| Atari Jaguar (WikiPedia) | ? | ? | ? | ? | |
| Bally | Bally Astrocade (WikiPedia) | ? | ? | ? | ? |
| Bandai | Bandai Atmark (Apple Pippin) | ? | ? | ? | ? |
--Spacefractal 14:45, 26 March 2006 (EST)
Hmm, as long as the machine's pages (like 3DO_Interactive_Multiplayer) don't become a wikipedia article about the console but has a strick structure on what topics are suitable and what topics are not, then I'm fine with it. Perhaps it is better to move the wikipedia link to that page so it is less tempting to put machine specs on the console's page? It still would like to include a column with cabfriendly emulators since that is what the page is about. Indeed the NES has (too) many emulators to list, but some are notable and useable for cabinets so the list can be short (say up to max 4 emulators per console).
Felsir 03:17, 27 March 2006 (EST)
Yep, the wikipedia links could go into the machine page itself, and link to the wikipedia pages. So we drop wikipedia links on the brief.
The cabfreidly emulators was not a bad idea, so we use that instead, but it could link directly to page, because we could use the indepth page anyware to list them. No need to doing that twice. It better to doing the console based, and not emulator based (like MESS, that is multiple system emulator). It good to destript all NES emulators on the same page, so this is just a quick list to good cabfreidly emulator.
But I may not like the system buttons, because many just use shift buttons to access them anyway.
NB. Underscore is a bad to use (like that one on 3D0 Line).
| Company | Machine | Players | Controls | Game Buttons | Cabfreidly Emulators |
| Atari | Atari 2600 | 2 | Digital | 1 | stella |
I like the last version of the table. Two things:
- Each console will get a page, on this page we can list all emulators (in two secions: cab friendly and other).
- Each emulator will get a page, so MESS gets a page (also to enable us to list wrappers, ini files, things like that). So the last column will not link to an external page, but to the emulator page. On that page there is some general info including the link to the official website.
How does that sound? Felsir 07:39, 27 March 2006 (EST)
Fine with me, sound great :-).
Im going to make the table tomorry (Im are going to bed soon). We do not need list other emuators, because there are allready most other sites, that cover that much better, like zophar, retrogames and soon. We should have cabfriedly emulators as the scope here.
But these external link could of course goes from the console/emulator page itself. The samme goes for arcade emulators, pc games and so on. Im was just taked on the console page first.
--Spacefractal 15:28, 27 March 2006 (EST)
I have now made the table, what do you think. There are of couse some spelling. THe other software page should use this list. It should not list coneols, that is allready on market (I do not known I should list Gameboy Advance, but there are allready very good emulators out there). Gamecube, PS2, Xbox is all nonemulators, but they could list on a another table, under the main one?
--Spacefractal 16:08, 28 March 2006 (EST)
